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We are loving the new enamel mixture...


Afternoon all,

Just finished this case before lunch. And I wanted to thank Bill Marais and Mike Skramstad for bringing this to the table. The enamel mixture Bill describes in the webinar just gives another level to what we can do with cosmetics on these restorations. I thought I would share, and have to give all credit to my assistant on this one. She is getting scary good. Everyone enjoy the weekend....

Of course, no preop image winking (restoring due to ill fitting large composite), but took prep, tryin and after...

Tom

 

 


excellent result - great job by entire team


Awesome result!


Really awesome result! So this first crystallized and then baked on luster pastes own program`?


On 9/24/2015 at 10:25 am, Tom Monahan said...

Afternoon all,

Just finished this case before lunch. And I wanted to thank Bill Marais and Mike Skramstad for bringing this to the table. The enamel mixture Bill describes in the webinar just gives another level to what we can do with cosmetics on these restorations. I thought I would share, and have to give all credit to my assistant on this one. She is getting scary good. Everyone enjoy the weekend....

Of course, no preop image winking (restoring due to ill fitting large composite), but took prep, tryin and after...

Tom

 

 

Great result Tom! Weekend??? I have another day to go brother!


Sharpie


Marko,

Let me start with, since were are waiting on lustre pastes.... its our own mix with emax stains and glazes to mimic what Bill used with Lustre paste. This was done in 1 fire. C2 HT emax. Anteriors will do 2-3 fires and really want to start using lustre pastes there.

Tom


On 9/24/2015 at 10:50 am, Shawn Sharp said...
On 9/24/2015 at 10:25 am, Tom Monahan said...

Afternoon all,

Just finished this case before lunch. And I wanted to thank Bill Marais and Mike Skramstad for bringing this to the table. The enamel mixture Bill describes in the webinar just gives another level to what we can do with cosmetics on these restorations. I thought I would share, and have to give all credit to my assistant on this one. She is getting scary good. Everyone enjoy the weekend....

Of course, no preop image winking (restoring due to ill fitting large composite), but took prep, tryin and after...

Tom

 

 

Great result Tom! Weekend??? I have another day to go brother!


Sharpie

I tell patients that I would go crazy if I worked 5 days a week Sharpie. Also, going to UGA game this weekend. I pick ones to go to that I know we'll win.... That is key


On 9/24/2015 at 10:51 am, Tom Monahan said...

Marko,

Let me start with, since were are waiting on lustre pastes.... its our own mix with emax stains and glazes to mimic what Bill used with Lustre paste. This was done in 1 fire. C2 HT emax. Anteriors will do 2-3 fires and really want to start using lustre pastes there.

Tom

glaze+incisal1 + incisal2? Care to share? :)


On 9/24/2015 at 10:50 am, Shawn Sharp said...
On 9/24/2015 at 10:25 am, Tom Monahan said...

Afternoon all,

Just finished this case before lunch. And I wanted to thank Bill Marais and Mike Skramstad for bringing this to the table. The enamel mixture Bill describes in the webinar just gives another level to what we can do with cosmetics on these restorations. I thought I would share, and have to give all credit to my assistant on this one. She is getting scary good. Everyone enjoy the weekend....

Of course, no preop image winking (restoring due to ill fitting large composite), but took prep, tryin and after...

Tom

 

 

Great result Tom! Weekend??? I have another day to go brother!


Sharpie

Smart man!


Where is this webinar that is spoken of?


On 9/24/2015 at 11:16 am, Marko Ahonen said...
On 9/24/2015 at 10:51 am, Tom Monahan said...

Marko,

Let me start with, since were are waiting on lustre pastes.... its our own mix with emax stains and glazes to mimic what Bill used with Lustre paste. This was done in 1 fire. C2 HT emax. Anteriors will do 2-3 fires and really want to start using lustre pastes there.

Tom

glaze+incisal1 + incisal2? Care to share? :)

so it's supposed to be 30% white, 30% pink, 20% gray, 20% blue. But since we didnt have the pink and gray we used white, red, blue. And just mixed until we got what the mixture looked like. Ill try and post a picture of our stains, kind of a mish mosh of colors.


On 9/24/2015 at 12:07 pm, Hans Smith said...

Where is this webinar that is spoken of?

Hans,

I believe you have to have premium or acadamy membership, which you can pay for. There are several other webinars available. Good information with all of them. Another plus to this site/community.

Tom


Beautiful result.

Wonder if this will wear off like the emax glaze, etc., that Rella Christiansen spoke of at C30,

or since it is porcelain, it will be part of the restoration and not subject to wear in the same way?

Enamel mix is white, gray, pink and blue Lustre paste


I'll post a pic later


this is what we came up with. should be somewhere in the neighborhood of Mike's pic later hopefully.


Here is the mix.  It works the best on high spots (line angles and heights of contour).

For all the academy members that did not get to see Bill Marais in the spring (and we have a lot of new ones after last week), make sure you call Shayna or Trent asap to get to the Seminar next month.  If you want to learn how to use Lustre Paste from the best in the business, that is your chance.


Nice job, Tom. Does your assistant want a second job?! The enamel technique is a great one and I've been playing with it to take an LT abutment block to an HT look. I'll post pics when I get one that looks close enough, but maybe one of you guys will beat me to it and save me the effortwinking Again...very nice job. I'd bond that restoration in my own mouth.


On 9/24/2015 at 1:29 pm, Mike Skramstad (Faculty) said...

Here is the mix.  It works the best on high spots (line angles and heights of contour).

For all the academy members that did not get to see Bill Marais in the spring (and we have a lot of new ones after last week), make sure you call Shayna or Trent asap to get to the Seminar next month.  If you want to learn how to use Lustre Paste from the best in the business, that is your chance.

Am I the only one who sees the irony of mixing all these stains together to get what looks exactly like e.max purple?


Gday Tom

what block did you use .... LT or HT eMax?   I'm sort of assuming given a few comments here that you used LT?

cheers ken 


And to clarify what your pics are showing: was pic 2 (where you can easily see the margin) the a dry tryin .... ie no water based material inside the crown purely for the tryin to eliminate the air gap?

thanks ken. 


Ken,
C2 HT, and #2 was dry try in. Always do to check contacts interproximally. I thought it was a good case to see how good the blending effect is with EMax ht in posterior with high and dry margins. Variolink esthetic cement was used.
Tom


Vu- these are not stains and not just purple. It's a 3D effect created by using Lustre Paste, which actually is a porcelain.
Attempts to do this with stains will work, but it's not the same.


Mike,

you have to admit it does look like prefixed emax. I got a good chuckle from that remark. But I was at your session and saw the results. Beautiful. Why don't they mix it up and sell it ? They could charge a fortune, save us the time.

Carrie


On 9/27/2015 at 12:45 pm, Carrie Polster said...

Mike,

you have to admit it does look like prefixed emax. I got a good chuckle from that remark. But I was at your session and saw the results. Beautiful. Why don't they mix it up and sell it ? They could charge a fortune, save us the time.

Carrie

I agree, and the ratios would always be consistent.


Tom, That's pretty sweet stuff!!


Here is a case I did this morning with the "enamel mix".  You can see the nice effect it gives on the line angles of the centrals.

This patient had a bunch of defective restorations and wanted a big change in color.  She also was extremely concerned with them looking "fake"... So the plan was to do 8 and 9 in "BioJaw" in 4.4 to get nice symmetry and biocopy the laterals to maintain the "natural" rotation of her teeth.... I did contour them a little bit (especially the laterals and the midline embrasure" to give more of a feminine tooth and also not so much roundness on the laterals.  She loved them, but I screwed up the MI embrasure on #10.  I may have to redo it if it bothers her... she loved the color though :)

Bonded with Variolink Esthetic... Brighter on #9 because of RCT and darker stump.  All preps had facial reduction of .5/.7/.9 in 3 planes.... Material Vita MK II.  She had no interest in Ortho or Gingival grafting...


On 9/24/2015 at 10:11 pm, Vu Le said...
On 9/24/2015 at 1:29 pm, Mike Skramstad (Faculty) said...

Here is the mix.  It works the best on high spots (line angles and heights of contour).

For all the academy members that did not get to see Bill Marais in the spring (and we have a lot of new ones after last week), make sure you call Shayna or Trent asap to get to the Seminar next month.  If you want to learn how to use Lustre Paste from the best in the business, that is your chance.

Am I the only one who sees the irony of mixing all these stains together to get what looks exactly like e.max purple?

That just made me laugh out loud.  



Great cases Mike. It really makes a difference. Love the purple ;)


On 9/29/2015 at 4:25 pm, Tom Monahan said... Great cases Mike. It really makes a difference. Love the purple ;)

Great cases Mike, what cycle or program do we use to fire the GC paste?